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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Goodbye to All That,&#8221; by Robin Morgan (1970)</title>
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		<title>By: The Virgin As Spinmaster &#171; Cafe Libre</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Virgin As Spinmaster &#171; Cafe Libre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 13:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] and husbands.   Daly and other radical feminists at the time challenged women say &#8220;Goodbye to All That&#8221; .  [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Journalism, Joan Didion: Goodbye to "Goodbye to All That" &#124; Nostalgia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Journalism, Joan Didion: Goodbye to "Goodbye to All That" &#124; Nostalgia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] it her own, “Goodbye To All That” has been recycled as the titles of (to name but a few): a 1970 essay by Robin Morgan about the women’s movement, Representative Cynthia McKinney’s remarks at a 2002 reception for [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it her own, “Goodbye To All That” has been recycled as the titles of (to name but a few): a 1970 essay by Robin Morgan about the women’s movement, Representative Cynthia McKinney’s remarks at a 2002 reception for [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Web 2.0 Activism Case Studies &#124; activism</title>
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		<dc:creator>Web 2.0 Activism Case Studies &#124; activism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] In the first issue, Robin Morgan contributed her ground-breaking radical feminist piece &#8220;Goodbye to All That,&#8221; in which she harshly criticized sexism and [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Snarfy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snarfy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I believe those women who interpret Robin Morgan&#039;s essay &quot;Goodbye To All That&quot; as hate-mongering are those who don&#039;t understand the truth of the female condition since the beginning of recorded human time.  I believe them to be women out of touch not only with their gender, but with themselves. The sad thing is that most women ARE out of touch with themselves because it suits men for us to be that way. C&#039;mon - look at the media representations of femininity.  Look at Hollywood.  Doesn&#039;t it scare any of you that your daughters are growing up with this as their model of perfection?  This is a male generated image, and our acceptance of it speaks to the depth of female subjugation and, to my horror, complacency, in this country - even in 2008! How did we ever get to a place, in these &quot;enlightened&quot; times where there even IS an &quot;ideal of beauty&quot; for a woman?  What the hell?  Where&#039;s the male counterpart? Why is it that men can be homely, balding, paunchy, dress like their grandfathers and be accepted, while women who follow the same trend are ridiculed and ostracized?  How brainless IS this country to believe that real women look anything like the images perpetrated by a MALE dominated western society?? 
Before anyone jumps to point out that Robin&#039;s essay was about so much more than the ideal feminine image in Western Society, let me state emphatically that I already KNOW that.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Here we are, 38 years later, and our girl children are being taught, through a mercenary and exploitative media,that a size 8 is marginally big and a size 10 is HUGE.  They&#039;re being taught that to be anything other than a perfect body with an interchangeable Barbie head is social suicide.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The other day I heard a co-worker issue the following declaration:  &quot;If I EVER get into double-digit sizing, I&quot;ll starve myself - it&#039;s just embarrassing, double digits are so HUGE.&quot;  She&#039;s 28, beautiful, and is far too thin.  A size 10 would be a GOOD size for her - healthy - but not in our culture.  When will women stop allowing themselves to be objectified???  Men aren&#039;t going to stop doing it - it&#039;s up to us to end it. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m off on a rant, so I should probably stop and get back to work - so I will - with one more question:  When are women going to wise up?  Some of y&#039;all have, but we&#039;ve still got a ways go go.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just my two cents.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe those women who interpret Robin Morgan&#8217;s essay &#8220;Goodbye To All That&#8221; as hate-mongering are those who don&#8217;t understand the truth of the female condition since the beginning of recorded human time.  I believe them to be women out of touch not only with their gender, but with themselves. The sad thing is that most women ARE out of touch with themselves because it suits men for us to be that way. C&#8217;mon &#8211; look at the media representations of femininity.  Look at Hollywood.  Doesn&#8217;t it scare any of you that your daughters are growing up with this as their model of perfection?  This is a male generated image, and our acceptance of it speaks to the depth of female subjugation and, to my horror, complacency, in this country &#8211; even in 2008! How did we ever get to a place, in these &#8220;enlightened&#8221; times where there even IS an &#8220;ideal of beauty&#8221; for a woman?  What the hell?  Where&#8217;s the male counterpart? Why is it that men can be homely, balding, paunchy, dress like their grandfathers and be accepted, while women who follow the same trend are ridiculed and ostracized?  How brainless IS this country to believe that real women look anything like the images perpetrated by a MALE dominated western society?? 
Before anyone jumps to point out that Robin&#8217;s essay was about so much more than the ideal feminine image in Western Society, let me state emphatically that I already KNOW that.  </p>

<p>Here we are, 38 years later, and our girl children are being taught, through a mercenary and exploitative media,that a size 8 is marginally big and a size 10 is HUGE.  They&#8217;re being taught that to be anything other than a perfect body with an interchangeable Barbie head is social suicide.  </p>

<p>The other day I heard a co-worker issue the following declaration:  &#8220;If I EVER get into double-digit sizing, I&#8221;ll starve myself &#8211; it&#8217;s just embarrassing, double digits are so HUGE.&#8221;  She&#8217;s 28, beautiful, and is far too thin.  A size 10 would be a GOOD size for her &#8211; healthy &#8211; but not in our culture.  When will women stop allowing themselves to be objectified???  Men aren&#8217;t going to stop doing it &#8211; it&#8217;s up to us to end it. </p>

<p>I&#8217;m off on a rant, so I should probably stop and get back to work &#8211; so I will &#8211; with one more question:  When are women going to wise up?  Some of y&#8217;all have, but we&#8217;ve still got a ways go go.</p>

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		<title>By: Rad Geek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rad Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 01:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;N.B.:&lt;/strong&gt; Many of the commenters on this post are replying, in part, to Robin Morgan&#039;s recent (2 February 2008) essay, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.womensmediacenter.com/ex/020108.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Goodbye To All That (#2)&quot;&lt;/a&gt;, a sort of sequel to this (January 1970) essay, in which Morgan explains why she supports Hillary Rodham Clinton for President of the United States, and dissects the sexist and racist tropes that have shown up during the Democratic primary contest between Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.womensmediacenter.com/ex/020108.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Goodbye To All That (#2)&quot;&lt;/a&gt; (and a &lt;a href=&quot;http://womensmediacenter.com/b2evolution/index.php?blog=5&amp;title=020408_robin_morgan_response&amp;more=1&amp;c=1&amp;tb=1&amp;pb=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;discussion thread&lt;/a&gt;) can be found online over at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.womensmediacenter.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Women&#039;s Media Center&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>N.B.:</strong> Many of the commenters on this post are replying, in part, to Robin Morgan&#8217;s recent (2 February 2008) essay, <a href="http://www.womensmediacenter.com/ex/020108.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Goodbye To All That (#2)&#8221;</a>, a sort of sequel to this (January 1970) essay, in which Morgan explains why she supports Hillary Rodham Clinton for President of the United States, and dissects the sexist and racist tropes that have shown up during the Democratic primary contest between Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama. <a href="http://www.womensmediacenter.com/ex/020108.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Goodbye To All That (#2)&#8221;</a> (and a <a href="http://womensmediacenter.com/b2evolution/index.php?blog=5&amp;title=020408_robin_morgan_response&amp;more=1&amp;c=1&amp;tb=1&amp;pb=1" rel="nofollow">discussion thread</a>) can be found online over at the <a href="http://www.womensmediacenter.com/" rel="nofollow">Women&#8217;s Media Center</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Karen Trommels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Trommels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 00:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;RE:   Goodbye to All That (#2) by Robin Morgan&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is one of the most complete &amp; concise articles of everything my friends &amp; relatives who support HRC that we have read.  I don&#039;t care why people vote but I do care that people examine the truth of everything else that I read in this article.  I am very grateful to the person who forwarded this to me and will forward it to others as well.
Thank you Robin Morgan.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE:   Goodbye to All That (#2) by Robin Morgan</p>

<p>This is one of the most complete &amp; concise articles of everything my friends &amp; relatives who support HRC that we have read.  I don&#8217;t care why people vote but I do care that people examine the truth of everything else that I read in this article.  I am very grateful to the person who forwarded this to me and will forward it to others as well.
Thank you Robin Morgan.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Courtney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Courtney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Clearly Anne, you did not understand her statement &quot;I’m not voting for her because she’s a woman, I’m voting for her because I am.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;She is in no way saying she will vote for Clinton because Clinton is a woman. Did you even read the previous paragraph?
She is voting for Clinton because:
&quot;I support Hillary Rodham because she’s the best qualified of all candidates running in both parties. I support her because her progressive politics are as strong as her proven ability to withstand what will be a massive right-wing assault in the general election. I support her because she knows how to get us out of Iraq. I support her because she’s refreshingly thoughtful, and I’m bloodied from eight years of a jolly “uniter” with ejaculatory politics. I needn’t agree with her on every point. I agree with the 97 percent of her positions that are identical with Obama’s—and the few where hers are both more practical and to the left of his (like health care). I support her because she’s already smashed the first-lady stereotype and made history as a fine senator, because I believe she will continue to make history not only as the first US woman president, but as a great US president.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Robin Morgan is a brillant and accomplished writer who has been striving for decades to reach mass audiences with the truth about society and feminism.
I personally haven&#039;t decided yet which way I&#039;m going to vote, but I do know sex and race of the candidate I choose will not matter, although of course my personal sex and race will inevitably affect my decision.
And Anne, you are the only one here that is ignorant, my dear.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly Anne, you did not understand her statement &#8220;I’m not voting for her because she’s a woman, I’m voting for her because I am.&#8221;</p>

<p>She is in no way saying she will vote for Clinton because Clinton is a woman. Did you even read the previous paragraph?
She is voting for Clinton because:
&#8220;I support Hillary Rodham because she’s the best qualified of all candidates running in both parties. I support her because her progressive politics are as strong as her proven ability to withstand what will be a massive right-wing assault in the general election. I support her because she knows how to get us out of Iraq. I support her because she’s refreshingly thoughtful, and I’m bloodied from eight years of a jolly “uniter” with ejaculatory politics. I needn’t agree with her on every point. I agree with the 97 percent of her positions that are identical with Obama’s—and the few where hers are both more practical and to the left of his (like health care). I support her because she’s already smashed the first-lady stereotype and made history as a fine senator, because I believe she will continue to make history not only as the first US woman president, but as a great US president.&#8221;</p>

<p>Robin Morgan is a brillant and accomplished writer who has been striving for decades to reach mass audiences with the truth about society and feminism.
I personally haven&#8217;t decided yet which way I&#8217;m going to vote, but I do know sex and race of the candidate I choose will not matter, although of course my personal sex and race will inevitably affect my decision.
And Anne, you are the only one here that is ignorant, my dear.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Klein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn Klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 18:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Goodbye To All Of That!!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goodbye To All Of That!!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Klein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn Klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 18:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The article was confusing at best.  However, not since Eleanor Roosevelt has there been a women in the white house capable of being president.  Both women weathered all kinds of adversity including their husbands infedility and came out strong.  Women, for some reason, seem to hold that against Hillary.  Some of the same women whose husbands also had illicit affairs.  Her bed is her business, not mind or yours.  It has not dampered her political struggles to promote womens rights, promoting health care reform for all, eliminating &quot;no child left behind&quot;, a program that is decimating our school system, and to end the war on Iraq.  She is a woman, a strong and intelligent woman, and for once we as women have someone we can get behind and feel proud of, but instead, we are like crabs in a barrell.  When one climb up we pull it back down.  What in the hell is wrong with women!!!  Can&#039;t we support the first women to come along in decades that really have a chance to win the nomination.  Are we so prejudice ourselves that we just can&#039;t vote for a woman.  And to make it easier for ourselves we have come up with the same lame excuses all  men Republican and Democrat alike use.  Yes, we need change in the while house, but it involves estrogen.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article was confusing at best.  However, not since Eleanor Roosevelt has there been a women in the white house capable of being president.  Both women weathered all kinds of adversity including their husbands infedility and came out strong.  Women, for some reason, seem to hold that against Hillary.  Some of the same women whose husbands also had illicit affairs.  Her bed is her business, not mind or yours.  It has not dampered her political struggles to promote womens rights, promoting health care reform for all, eliminating &#8220;no child left behind&#8221;, a program that is decimating our school system, and to end the war on Iraq.  She is a woman, a strong and intelligent woman, and for once we as women have someone we can get behind and feel proud of, but instead, we are like crabs in a barrell.  When one climb up we pull it back down.  What in the hell is wrong with women!!!  Can&#8217;t we support the first women to come along in decades that really have a chance to win the nomination.  Are we so prejudice ourselves that we just can&#8217;t vote for a woman.  And to make it easier for ourselves we have come up with the same lame excuses all  men Republican and Democrat alike use.  Yes, we need change in the while house, but it involves estrogen.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: AmericanPhysician</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 05:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Anne, you missed the entire point of the essay.  I don&#039;t doubt your intelligence, but rather your frame of mind.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne, you missed the entire point of the essay.  I don&#8217;t doubt your intelligence, but rather your frame of mind.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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